In cricket, like in life, it is not the most talented who survive, nor
the most intelligent, but the ones who are most responsive to change.
Dravid's career was an eternal quest to get better. Everything he did
was to, as he puts it best, "deliver the bat at the right time".
It has been a fortnight since Rahul Dravid retired and already the
world has turned upside down. First, he couldn't grab a helicopter to
beat the Bangalore morning traffic to get to the interview on time. Then
he couldn't take his eyes off a large glass jar of what looked like
multi-coloured sweets (jelly beans? M&Ms?), grabbing a few on his
way out of the coffee shop at the Leela Palace. (Ya-boo to you, skinfold
tests.) And finally, this otherwise studious, decorous and meticulous
man is completely relaxed about the fact that the last leg of his
playing career will pan out in front of an adoring, singing, dancing IPL
audience, for whom "dot ball" might as well belong to children's
activity books and "well left" is a Google Maps instruction.
Just before setting out for his stint with the Rajasthan Royals, Dravid
gave his first interview after retiring from international cricket,
where he looked back on his career, the way ahead for the Indian team,
and taking the hard road to retirement.
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How does a player pick the right time to retire? How did you? What's
the different between a slump and a sign that your time is up? What
separates doubt from foresight?
It's actually very hard to tell if there is such a thing as a right
time. All your career, you're taught to never never give up. You're
fighting, you keep improving, you always think you can sort out
problems. I never thought about going out on a high or going out on a
slump. A lot of people told me: "You will just know, Rahul, when the
time is right." Obviously there are other things that come into
consideration. Where you are in your life, where the team is at that
point of time, what the future challenges are, how you fit into that.
Even if someone doesn't tell you, you've been around long enough to know
where you stand. There are the immediate challenges of tours like
Australia and England, which you think are tough, and you want to try go
there and make a difference.
In the end it just comes down to knowing and being comfortable with it.
And I just think, while I had been thinking about it, I was most
comfortable doing it at this stage. If things had not gone well in
England, maybe I would have been comfortable doing it then. Obviously
after England, I felt I was in good form and that I needed to go to
Australia, and I felt that it was going to be a tough tour and that it
wouldn't be right to walk away after doing well in England… it may sound
silly, but just wanting to finish on a high - that hadn't occurred to
me, in the sense that I wanted to go when I was comfortable.
There was a period in 2008, the end of 2008, when I was really
struggling and not getting runs, and there was a lot of talk of me being
dropped. If I had been dropped at that stage, I would've still
continued to play first-class cricket. Not in the intention of trying to
make a comeback - I know that if I had got dropped at 36 or 37, the
likelihood of me making a comeback would have been very slim. I wouldn't
have played for wanting to make comeback, but because I still wanted to
just play the game. It was a game I loved and I still loved enjoying
playing it. I probably would have continued playing Ranji Trophy at that
stage. And how long that would have lasted, who knows.
But to end a career with the IPL?
In some ways it's like a weaning-off period. Playing cricket has been
such a big part of my life, so to just walk away might have been hard.
Some of the senior guys who've retired and played the IPL say the IPL's a
good way, in some ways, to slowly wean yourself off the drug that is
cricket.
What do you assess when making a decision to retire?
It's a combination of things. The important thing to remember is how
much are you contributing. That's a major factor. As you get older these
things do come in, and that's why I said that England for me… it was
important for me to keep contributing.
After actually retiring, did you ever think: what if this is a mistake?
I think the best question someone asked me about this retirement thing
is Eric Simons. I called him up and said, "Eric, I'm retiring." And Eric
said, "When you made that decision, Rahul, did you feel relief or did
you feel disappointment?" And I had never thought about it that way. It
was a feeling of relief and I did feel it. I've not regretted it.
I've lived this life for 20 years. I haven't regretted it and I hope it
won't regret it, and I still can have a Twenty20 bash. I guess it's only
in June, when I'll sit down and the Indian team will play another Test
match again - I don't know, I might miss it. We miss a lot of things. We
miss college, everyone wants to go back to Uni and live that life
again, but you know that's not possible. Hopefully you move on. You will
know that there are other things to do and other challenges.
What about international cricket won't you miss it, apart from the travel and being away from family?
In a cricket career your life is in some ways controlled for you. You
have no control over schedules, you have no control about where you want
to play, you don't have control over that as a cricketer. I think while
I'll miss the routine and knowing what to strive for, I think I'll
enjoy the flexibility of being able to make some choices about things I
want to do. I'll enjoy the luxury of now having that choice.
What is it about life after cricket that you think a player fears the most?
Each one has his own fears, when it's something you've done all your
life. And when it's the only thing that you've known, it's almost like
starting out fresh again. It's almost like going back to college, like
going back to what you felt like when making a decision about whether
you want to do commerce or engineering. The only problem is, you are
doing it at 40 rather than at 17 or 18 and with skills you've worked on
for 20 years at the exclusion of other skills. You have to start all
over again. That, I think, in a lot of ways can be daunting to people,
and it's not easy, especially, if I may say so, because you are used to
competing and playing at an extremely high level. You pride yourself on a
certain level of competence and a certain level of ability.
Very rarely people can, I think, step out of something they've done for
23 years and attain the same standards in whatever they do. When you are
used to playing at that top level, it's hard to accept that sometimes
you have to settle for being second-best. I guess that's the way it's
going to be. You can't expect a guy at 40-41 to become "world class" at
something else.
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What do retired players tell you about coping?
I have spoken to people who retire, and specially coaches. Whether it's
been conversations with Kapil Dev or through the years with John
[Wright], Greg [Chappell], Gary [Kirsten], and even Duncan [Fletcher]
now. All of them have gone through that and they say it takes a bit of
time to get used to. You get used to it and then there are new things to
challenge you and you must move on. Each one is different, I guess.
Before you actually retired, was there a time in your career that you
were so totally fed up that you actually wanted to throw it all away?
Obviously the period just after the World Cup when we lost, in 2007, was
difficult. It was the first phase in my career other than the first
couple of years when I was establishing myself, that I got dropped from
the one-day side. Other than that I had a pretty smooth run for a long
time. That was tough in terms of some of my performances, that whole
period, 2007-08, getting knocked out of the World Cup and not performing
so well after I gave up the captaincy for a while. I think that was a
really hard period, when I questioned myself a lot and wondered whether
it had all just disappeared and gone away.
I thought I'd really had a good run and I could have walked away in 2008
and felt pretty comfortable with what I had done and achieved, and I
wouldn't have regretted it at all. Because I've always tried to do my
best - you've always got to try to be the best you can be and hope that
the results fall your way. If it hadn't worked out, it hadn't worked
out. But I was lucky to get a chance to play a couple of years of
cricket.
How much was working on your fitness a part of pushing yourself through the last four or five years from then on?
I spent two-three years working with Paul Chapman, who was the strength
and conditioning coach at the NCA and the NCA's physios and trainers, on
raising the bar of my fitness. I was lucky that we had all those people
there here. I saw in those physios and trainers and in Paul, a
resource, really good professional people who could help me. And I sort
of decided to utilise that completely. I did make a conscious effort to
try and raise the bar of my fitness, because if I wanted to keep playing
at this age, I didn't want any of the younger guys or people in the
field to feel that I wasn't fit enough to be there.
Sometimes performances you can or can't control, but fitness I think to a
large extent you can control. I'm not saying you can control everything
in fitness - there are a lot of guys who have injuries, who, whatever
they do and whatever they try, sadly they can't do much about. But in
most things, fitness and diet and stuff like that, you have
responsibility over it.
Performance… sometimes you practise and work hard and still things don't
pan out. But fitness is a lot simpler. I said, "Look, I'll make an
effort to be as fit as I've been. While I did try, it was hard to say
I've been at my fittest. In some areas I was fitter than I was at 24-25
and in some areas I was not. But I'd like to believe that till I
finished my career, I set a pretty high standard of fitness for myself
and I didn't let anybody down in terms of the effort I put in in terms
of my physical fitness.
Did it have a direct impact on your game in the last few years, you think?
It's hard to co-relate the two. You do perform better when you're fit,
you do feel better about yourself, but it's hard to say. Even when I was
doing badly in 2007-08, I was pretty fit. Was I really fitter in
England last year than I was in 2007 when I was doing badly? Really, no.
Probably I was fitter back then when I was in England, so no. Sometimes
fitness is a good thing to have but you have to recognise that fitness
takes you only so far, and skills are the most important thing.
Fitness just helps you execute those cricketing skills for longer and
more consistently maybe. If someone thinks, "I'll spend the off season
working on my fitness and I'll come back a better cricketer," I don't
think that's enough. You need to spend a lot of time working on your
skills and honing your skills.
When cricketers go into their late 30s do they sense what the outside
world observes as a fading of their skills? Slowing down of reflexes,
eyesight etc?
I didn't sense it like that personally… but maybe we are trained not to
sense it, who knows? Maybe sometimes these things are better judged from
outside. As a player you will never admit to weakness, to a slowing
down of skills. You're not trained to admit these things. You have bad
patches when you are 24-25, and it's only when you have bad patches
after 35-36 that people say your skills are down, the eyesight is gone.
Maybe it has not, maybe it has nothing to do with age and you're just
going through bad form and you happen to be 35. After 35, I felt as fit
in terms of physical fitness - if you judge fitness in terms of
sprinting a distance, running a distance, whatever yo-yo tests we have
and weights you lift - as I was when I was playing my best cricket, at
28-29. I was probably doing more in terms of some things now than I was
when I was young.
How do you judge eyesight? If you go to a doctor and ask him, he will
you've still got 20-20 vision. Maybe [time] just wears you down - the
travelling, the pressure, the dealing with expectations, those things
slowly start chipping away, chipping away. It's hard to put a date to it
and say, "Now it's started decreasing and now it has decreased."
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The best explanation I've heard for this is that mentally sometimes you
are fresher when you are younger. You've not been worn down so much. So
your response to defeat, failure, success, pressure is better. As you
get older, the freshness gets lost, the sense of excitement. Like what
you experience the first time you walk into Lord's. After you've been
there three or four times, maybe that sense of wonder goes. That's the
best explanation of why after a period of dealing with some of the same
things, they become more difficult, rather than a fading of skill.
In that way Australia must have been the tour from hell? You went
there with the best intentions, the best preparation, and it all went
badly. What went wrong?
I think Australia was disappointing. In England I felt we had quite a
few injuries and I just felt we weren't necessarily as well prepared as
we were in Australia. Australia, I thought we went there with the best
of intentions, the guys cared. They played better, they pitched the ball
up, we had some opportunities in the
first Test,
we didn't grab them. We had them at some 210 for 6 and then they got
320 and we were about 220 for 2, and Sachin got out that evening and I
got out next morning. Having said that, you have got to give them
credit. They bowled well, pitched the ball up, they swung the ball.
From a personal point of view? All the bowleds?
It was disappointing. You set high standards for yourself. I felt that
getting out is getting out and obviously constantly getting out…
So it really doesn't matter whether you were out caught, lbw, stumped, bowled, whatever?
I don't like getting out, period. How it happens is almost irrelevant.
But yeah, obviously it happened a few times more than I would have
liked, no doubt about it. The beauty of it is that now I don't have to
worry about it.
But those are challenges you face all your life. I think that is what
differentiates people who play for long periods of time from others,
because they keep getting asked questions. Top bowlers and top bowling
attacks keep asking you different questions. For some, it is getting out
in a particular way, for some it is the ability to play spin, for some
to play pace. For some it is a different bowler, a unique angle, on a
different wicket. These questions keep getting asked and you have to
constantly keep coming up with answers. Most of the guys that I know who
have played over a period of time have constantly been able to find
answers to the questions that keep getting asked. You become a problem
solver, a solution finder. I'd like to believe that if I had continued, I
would hopefully have worked on this area [getting bowled] and got
better at it.
Much is said about body language and neither you or the Indian team
was big on body language. In your experience, how much did that count in
a competitor?
I feel now that now good body language is sometimes equated to being
abusive or aggressive, and I think that that's not true. Each of us is
different, and I think there's people who show more of their body
language in a particular manner and that's what works for them, and fair
enough, I'm not saying that that's wrong.
Body language can mean different things. Just because someone is not
over-the-top competitive doesn't mean he's not a good competitor. Or it
doesn't mean he's not in for a fight. There are external people and
internal people. It doesn't mean that people who are more internal are
less aggressive. They can be as aggressive.
Sometimes the toughest bowlers, I found, were always the guys who gave
away nothing in terms of the way they thought - what got them angry,
what got them frustrated. They were very, very hard guys, because you
knew they were just focused on bowling and doing the best they could.
Someone like McGrath, someone like Ambrose. When I played Ambrose, it
was a great education for me. He never said a thing. I've never heard
him speak; I don't know what he sounded like and I was on tour for four
months. He gave you nothing. He pitched every ball on the spot, he was
proud of his skill and his craft; he wanted to take wickets and he ran
in with intensity.
You knew that intensity, you could sense that intensity with them. They
did it throughout the day without showing you much. There were a lot of
guys who would shout, stare at you, swear. But you knew they did not
have the stamina or the fitness to survive till the end of the day. You
could tell that they were emotionally violent but that they would fade.
Then there were people like Warne or Murali. Warne was dramatic but he
was also incredibly aggressive. You knew that when he got the ball in
the hand, he was going to come at you. I judge aggression on the way
people perform.
The bowlers I respected or feared or rated were not the ones who gave me
lip or stared at me or abused me. More the ones who, at any stage of
the game, when had they had the ball in hand, they were going to be at
me and they were going to have the skill and the fitness and the ability
to be aggressive.
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And that was easily picked up.
You could tell that very quickly. You can see the spell of a guy who's
just raved and ranted, and after tea you can see he's just not the same
bowler. He's not doing the discipline thing. The team might require him
to be bowling one line and blocking up the game because there's a big
partnership developing. And they are more interested in trying to be
aggressive, to do their thing and trying to be the hero. It becomes
about them, not about what the team is trying to do.
Coming from a country like India, with a technique attuned to playing
spin, what was it like tackling Murali and Warne. What were the methods
you used to face them?
No matter how much practice you have, these guys were great bowlers.
They had variation, consistency, control. There were some great spinners
during that time - Murali, Warne, and I was lucky to play with Anil and
Harbhajan, two guys who bowled well for us. You had Saqlain, who bowled
well against us in a couple of series. Daniel Vettori was extremely
consistent; bowled good tight lines. So these guys were good. I like to
believe we played some of the world's greatest spinners better than some
of the other teams did.
One of the things is that because we had so much practice, maybe we read
some of these guys better. One of the things we did better was that
whenever a bad ball was bowled, we were able to punish it, and we had
the guys who had that skill. There was a certain amount of pressure on
the spinners bowling at us, that they had to be at their A game all the
time. And when they were at their A game, they knocked us over a few
times, no doubt about it. But you had to be at your A game to do well
against us, and you can't be at your A game all the time.
What do you make of the general notion that struggling against fast bowling is worse than struggling against spin?
I think that sort of thing is a throwback to the days when there was no
helmet, so there was a fear of injury when facing fast bowling. People
were scared, and everyone would have been scared, but I guess those who
showed it were considered weaker and that was not considered good to be.
Also, I think subcontinent tours in the old days were not considered
the No. 1 tours - people didn't necessarily value their tours to the
subcontinent as much as they valued tours to England, Australia or South
Africa. That has changed now and it's pretty obvious that, with the
kind of audience and support that cricket generates in this part of the
world, a tour to this part of the world is extremely important now.
Honestly, if you want to be a good batsman you have to prove yourself in
all conditions. To say that it is okay to do badly in the subcontinent,
to do badly against spin, is not acceptable anymore. It's slowly
changing. When I look at the media in England, Australia, South Africa,
in the past sometimes they would almost have a casual attitude to
performances on subcontinent tours. They are also putting a lot more
focus and emphasis on it now. When some of their players don't do well
on the subcontinental tours, they get criticised and it gets pointed out
and questioned, which is a good thing.
Your captaincy had some good results and at the same time many dramas. What, firstly, did you like about job?
I enjoyed the decision-making process in the middle. The actual
captaincy side of things was good. I enjoyed being part of the process
of trying to build a team, trying to be creative, to see how we could
get the best out of players, see how we could win and compete with the
resources we have. Those are sides of captaincy you enjoy.
There were some good results. In the end you have to accept that you are
judged a lot by the World Cup in India, whether you like it not.
Obviously that World Cup didn't go well and didn't pan out the way I had
hoped it would. So I guess it clouds a lot of what happened. But I
think there were some good results and there were some tough times, like
with a lot of captains, but the overriding impression that tends to
stay is that World Cup. I'm not here to justify anything. I recognise
that I always knew that was going to happen. That's the way it is.
Was captaincy something you were actually looking forward to doing?
I was vice-captain for a long time and I was part of the process, so
yes, I knew that if there was an injury or something that happened, I
would be the next guy in charge. You're part of the management and
decision-making process, you're contributing, you're ticking all the
time, so you know you have to be ready. I also knew that me and Sourav
were also of the same age and it might not happen. When it did happen, I
was extremely keen and excited about trying to do a good job of it.
Did the Chappell drama
weigh you down as a captain? When you look at it now, should you have
done something differently? Maybe behaved out of personality and been
confrontational with him? Or did you believe you and Chappell were on
the same page but the environment soured very quickly?
I think when you look back at any stage of your career, there are things
you could have done differently, and that captaincy period is no
different. In terms of intention, of what we were trying to achieve, I
have no doubt in my mind that you know it was on the right path. Sure,
we made mistakes, sure, there were things that we did right, and maybe
some of the results didn't show up right away, they did show up later
on, but that's just the way it is.
I'll be the first one to admit - and my whole career is based on looking
to improve and try to do better - that there were times then I could
have done things differently, in the way that I approached it and
handled it. Being probably a little less intense. Maybe it came to me
that I was so keen to do a good job that I got too caught up in it. I
got too tense, too anxious or too keen about it in some ways.
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Do you think that captains can actually lose teams and that at one point you lost the team?
Maybe it is. I don't know if you lose the team. You can lose players in
your team and you have to try and fight and get them back sometimes. Or
sometimes it's phases that players are themselves going through in their
own careers that pushes them away from the team. In some ways so you
can lose players. I don't think you can lose a team. Then there are
times when you are making tough decisions about doing certain things
that not everybody in the team likes. Then you need results to go your
way. At a time like that, if results don't go your way then sometimes it
becomes easy for people in and around the system to sometimes, I guess,
pull in different directions. Eventually it does become about results.
It's not all about results but results are incredibly important. And I
think, specially as we've seen in India, results in big tournaments.
Why did you stand down from the captaincy after the England tour in 2007 that had gone well?
Maybe I just lost the enjoyment of the job. I got a certain joy out of
captaincy, and maybe there was a period on that Engand trip where I just
lost the joy of the job. I'd been playing and captaining non-stop for
three years and I also had a young family. I lost a certain enjoyment,
and I generally felt that the captain of India should be someone who is
extremely eager and excited and wakes up every morning wanting to
captain the team. Maybe in that time there were days that I didn't feel
like that.
When you retired, you called your team-mates and spoke to them before
making the announcement. When you quit the captaincy, you just
vanished. What was that about?
When I look at it in hindsight, I could have handled it better. I didn't
want to make a fuss about it at that stage, and I think a lot of people
got upset with me more about how I handled it rather than the decision
in itself. So you learn from that, you learn from the mistakes. Maybe I
could have handled it a bit better and done it in a better way than I
did.
Now that you're about to go into the IPL as one final hurrah, what is
your response to the impact of Twenty20 cricket on Indian cricket?
The reality is that when I grew up, playing Test cricket was the
ultimate. It mattered professionally also in terms of making a living
from this game, which does become important at some point. You had to
play Test cricket consistently for a long time to do that. But now you
don't need to play Test cricket. The advent of Twenty 20 and the IPL has
meant that it is possible to make an extremely good living from the
game without having to play Test cricket. In the past you had only the
cream at the top who were making a good living, but now it's spread a
lot more and you have a lot more people who make a very good living. It
is one of the great positives of the T20 and the IPL.
But there is obviously the danger that players might sell themselves
short. If they face early stumbles or hurdles early on in their Test
career or in first-class cricket, there might be a few who may choose to
stick to T20 because they are better at it and they are making better
money from it and they don't want to risk losing that.
India will face this challenge a lot more because a lot more Indian
players play in the IPL. So how we address that challenge and go out and
make people and players value Test cricket - that will come down to
scheduling. We have to schedule more Test matches per year. It will come
down to compensation. You've got to compensate Test cricketers
adequately now. It'll come down to marketing, how you market Test
cricket, glorify its history. It'll come down to coaches at junior
levels, how they talk to their wards, how they inspire them about Test
cricket. It'll be about stories, it'll be about media. Everyone will
have to play their part.
There have been some good examples recently of people who have been good
players in Twenty20 and have come out and done well in Test cricket.
It's a good thing for kids to see that you can succeed in all three
forms of the game. That's important. I have no doubt that a lot of the
kids playing today in the one-day and Test side have grown up having
Test cricketers to admire. But it's kids who are my children's age or a
little older, who are now getting interested in the game for the first
time and are seeing the IPL, it's those kind of children that we need to
educate and talk to about Test cricket.
The responsibility lies with the ICC and the boards to schedule enough
Test matches. They might have to make a few sacrifices in terms of
money. I have no doubt that if you play enough Test matches, kids will
want to play it. People might not come to the grounds that easily, and
that's why it's important to explore other avenues - whether it is
day-night cricket, or venues where we play it, and the context of Test
matches. We have to accept that people don't have the time, but there is
still huge interest for Test cricket. People follow Test cricket,
whether it's on television or the internet, in India as much as
elsewhere.
In the last few years in as much as there have been fears, the number of
the articles that get written about Test cricket, the number of people
who follow it passionately, who talk to me about Test cricket - that
hasn't changed.
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In this Twenty20 age, how must India handle the passing of a great
generation of its Test players? After 8-0, how can the transition be
made smooth?
At some stage there is going to be a whole new generation of players. I
know there are always links between one generation of players and the
others; there is always a middle-level of management - players who have
been around and are still going to be around for a few years. Two or
three guys might retire in the next couple of years, whenever that is,
who knows? But after that there are going to be guys who are going to be
around, and the responsibility is going to lie on these guys to step it
up. Guys like Sehwag, Gambhir, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Dhoni himself. Not
only as players but also as spokesmen. As people who decide the culture
of the team, the way the team is run, the image they want to project of
the team, regarding which form of the game is important to this team. It
will be a group of players, who I think are already seniors, who will
set the tone for the next generation coming through.
That cycle goes on, that cycle will go on. It's got to move on from
being the team that was led by my generation, which is already happening
slowly and will continue to do so over the next few years.
I'm not saying the seniors need to be replaced, they will be the
sounding boards. But the direction and the culture of the team over the
next ten years will have to be decided by this capable group of young
players.
Virat Kohli is now seen as the leader of a younger generation - do you see him as your successor in the No. 3 slot?
He's got the talent - that was obvious from the time he was an Under-19
kid. He didn't have a really good [first] year at Royal Challengers
Bangalore but you could see that there was talent. That's not going to
change. He's got the talent to succeed at this level and it's great to
see the evolution of this kid, from what we saw at 19 to what he's
becoming now. His consistency of performance and his ability to play in
different conditions and score runs in different conditions - that's
great.
And he's got to keep doing that. As with any career and anything that
you play for a long time, questions are going to be asked of him. On the
technical front, on the physical front, on the mental front. On how he
deals with failure, with success, with all that happens around him in
Indian cricket. Questions are going to be asked about him, and how he
comes up with solutions or answers is going to decide how long or how
successful a career he is going to have.
Indian cricket can hope that someone like Virat, who has seemingly made
that transition from a precocious talent to a performer at the
international level, is able to have a long and successful career. The
strength of your team is finally built around people who can have long
and successful careers. You can then build a team around him and some of
the other young guys.
Do you worry about where Indian cricket is at the moment - that we
are going to be a very good, competitive team in ODI cricket rather than
a successful Test team? Or that all of this depends on ensuring that
your fast bowlers conveyor belt doesn't go around so quickly?
I wouldn't say I'm worried. I would say there are challenges that Indian
cricket faces today. Some of these are challenges that have always been
there in the history of our game - whether it is finding good quality
fast bowling allrounders or finding opening batsmen, or finding real
fast bowlers. These challenges have to be addressed, and it's no point
worrying. There are lots of positives about Indian cricket.
It's going to be a whole new level of thinking, a whole new level of
leadership, of thought, that is required. Like I said, of how the team
is going to project itself. You can't just let things flow. If we just
let things happen, they will happen. You might get lucky, you might
suddenly find a brilliant player or a brilliant fast-bowling allrounder
from somewhere, but there needs to be serious thought put into the way
the team is and what is the way forward and how we want to see the
Indian team, not today but ten years ahead.
When we got together as a group of guys in 2000, it was important for me
how the team was projected. We were going through a rough patch, we had
come out of this match-fixing thing. We were always known as poor
travellers. It was said we were scared of fast bowling, we were
arrogant, rude, or that because of match-fixing you can't trust anyone.
These were the things that you wanted to change. Ten years later, now
there is another challenge. Each team has its own image; that's what you
want to change. Maybe this team now has the image where it's said they
are very good one-day players, they are not that good as Test players.
You keep hearing talk around the place about what impact the IPL might
have, how everyone will only want to play IPL and how it might affect
our Test cricket. Hopefully these guys will go on challenge that notion,
to show us that it is not the case.
The day before the next Test that India plays, if the team called you
into the dressing room to make a speech, what would you say to them?
I wouldn't go in! I don't know what my future might be. Somewhere along
the line I'm sure I'll bump into the guys. I'll catch up with them. But I
don't know if I'd be really comfortable walking into an Indian dressing
room now. In some ways I just think that when you move on from there,
you move on.
I don't think I was good at speeches, even as captain. The people who
inspired me and mattered most to me and whom I looked up to were people
who actually walked the talk. Who didn't necessarily speak a lot but you
knew that they put in 100% - what they did was an example more than
what they said. I did say a few things but I don't think I was the guy
who gave a lot of speeches. So, well, if I did go into the dressing room
again, I would just tell them that it's their time now, my time has
passed.